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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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2 H! ]) f3 n  D( y  g1 @/ YBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
- j/ X8 D, e% c( r" y: CClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?") F/ ?, m' K" u" E" E( v$ v, m
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).9 P8 q' k5 Q: a; U
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
' W7 S1 t% b! m# Z9 L3 @' t上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?1 `; B" o$ R8 g9 |
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:3 Y- V& e+ x7 D2 w7 ]( z4 f; v$ D
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.3 }6 q' ]% y+ X! \, T1 i4 ?. {& O2 f
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
/ z2 J& [7 c# L# s! C" ]but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
  b2 l: v# w5 K" l% x: oto get out of our government and to get out of our lives., A  o: i- P5 m  o$ z2 @
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
  f5 U3 P, _# F( z( `5 y/ tHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection+ |/ E( B: S. W% W1 _# p# M
if we demand He leave us alone?"
- ]6 c& _% T  _* l『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
3 Y2 A, P3 R+ L2 X只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,9 d* S& v* F* f, y
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。+ v: M' `. z+ q! e
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
7 \; S, E  I3 y我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
) j7 {/ p) {8 _/ a) J又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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& ?7 h) m. b1 y. @, xIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.7 `) r+ }! f1 u
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
% `# Y' V8 u+ U. g) [0 z+ mher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
6 B4 X: b$ S" ]$ ~, f! u. bschools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
1 o0 v! x& g$ ?9 w: f0 @7 S3 Z, dschool...9 v5 I4 Y! X- c1 [4 Y
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
$ o' E1 ~0 \- o% Dand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.  b7 ?: {/ R( A" u
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
- E7 O% Z9 s4 K6 o8 {" n$ m4 W我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
$ ^9 W9 Q1 v" L2 S, n(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
; ~0 p5 z4 P. M% L' v  m! s最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、7 w9 I" K# {! v! O0 p6 B+ \
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。8 H/ G! ~8 K+ Q5 W) H/ \

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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
2 E. ?9 `, \/ O3 e* \: a9 B0 twhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
/ X2 `% r1 @& V( A# Wand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
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We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.! ?+ c& B! `, E) b
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
: d* ~5 q2 \& O+ \1 J我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
1 g& S1 @9 Q& H3 l以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊5 n$ L' x+ b' B& Y
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。( H* t5 x- j8 q& T# s, z: l# l" g

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! T$ z  E& I! b$ r; l) {) f' dThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our* b2 k0 |) P. Z. a8 o, Y
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member+ x$ G! |, @9 ~$ h
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave9 v! V5 L  V; I6 G9 o' C
because we don 't want any bad publicity,8 b/ d2 }/ r+ h
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
+ l8 x8 y( V. I  {/ Vbetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
4 w3 p2 E( H1 |  M$ |etc.). And we said OK.
* c% q7 ^2 }" ~6 K5 r- b然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,/ i6 Y$ a7 l, q# `/ x6 s1 F+ p
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
4 }, @; D' {4 x教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
; i( m: k) g5 ^2 k" }4 L更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),* R2 {* m3 K. f: ^8 h1 R1 J9 ?$ S
而大家同意了。9 M. _4 p$ [$ B
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,  [; f' r, s1 k; |' ]( `
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.# D# Y) }' [1 o/ H# k0 U/ H& v7 D
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys% [/ Y4 C, {; x! Y, {
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
( K  J+ J& x$ d. T- ?3 Q+ Y" wthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,: z+ |$ S- a" M
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we$ Y* k. u0 O- p1 l6 W
said OK.# \1 _6 b% z' A; Q
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
8 S/ w( i0 b, _5 C6 _$ S甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
. P( C$ }2 c' D8 A# d然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
1 N. y# @6 U# G% T% T他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,0 O: d0 `9 D( j/ g% y  O
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
. q7 ?! x$ V1 Q* Y) u他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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, d  m& }* \2 w. _6 P( Q5 a$ Q% A2 s  jThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter! n7 w% r# n. L
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
" D" ?6 r7 k+ ]( a, Nwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
, _6 p. l( I- y1 K$ Z: E7 jdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.: |) y. g9 B1 U7 i  G
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,0 m# ~, r0 U: d/ o1 r
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
- K1 E+ H: ?7 K7 I: [+ R任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
) u4 m5 [( e9 u* X' ^只要我有工作而且經濟看好。# B1 L& `) M* Z2 C
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
* D  ?. T/ p5 q% e; Uand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
8 E" Y, `- w: o# {5 jof the female body. And we said OK.0 N2 h; ^. R  N, j" I' i, V7 r; I1 {
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,) o3 f( d0 q; T4 j& Z
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。- c$ v( [% b0 m, K$ S
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and8 E2 a  t* t: ]
published pictures of nude children and then further again
/ @9 b" D/ |: i0 }& D& _' ^+ n1 k- s' Cby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,. V! f0 |" C/ U# P6 z
they're entitled to free speech.
3 K. A+ c7 L' i) z, Z* r+ g然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,4 z5 \% u% _3 G& N
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
2 J0 v3 Q0 z) r8 ~- T他們這樣做是言論自由。$ z6 A: W! }* O& V# ]0 T% B; l+ U1 b

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. I" H5 j; P; ~, B6 F& D; sThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
3 h& ]$ v) i5 e2 r/ v$ l1 q& H8 r, Ithat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
: m, N5 v& l) }, U# c3 j" Othat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes./ P! h, [6 {( i/ v, H; j- b
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect," J; U. L6 I) ]# u* J
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.' q* \5 e/ `4 x& s8 m% D0 U
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
+ ]2 x" Q. N& M* c不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
- Z8 a" Q5 Y6 `, V5 \% J謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:7 J" c) o6 Y% g4 H
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。. d. S  A' w" _8 t0 O
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,. z3 b+ M, c( ]1 O
why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
& E& I' Z- m% K, J- E4 o& B, fto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,0 F- e5 l( g3 \% Z5 }: g
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
  d3 ], y4 `- E8 A; A( _9 Z8 _5 y7 y% hI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
6 S" r; m' e4 X5 w. }如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
! Y6 m, V+ K& ^為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?6 d# z5 j# d9 E; U4 B
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?$ `" q6 L: c! Q
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
" i# N- e; X- v9 n8 X0 P* d我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。+ d4 ]$ D) d4 [" O

# q7 r4 j1 `+ o3 JFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder1 [/ J2 n# K% n/ P0 h
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
6 J6 D8 l0 s2 `% nsay, but question what the Bible says.$ k' l# @8 I2 L* o. v- t+ H" x1 |) Q; V
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
" t- D7 w) Y3 ^" _. C( x) ?" O- e$ ~/ W+ a實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。( [  q0 o: I% q* U

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. ~9 E) y* Q8 G- [6 }Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like0 Y4 I3 W- W. d+ F5 X5 S
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,* g' B7 V- c( ?/ Q
people think twice about sharing.
+ {+ O9 F  |, i+ O, r9 g實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;) L. ]% T. u. A; D, ]3 l
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
( k/ W. ^4 k/ X: R  [人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。7 k, j* \" R( v( d7 ?9 ]
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
  A& V: ?8 v4 I  dthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed6 {; ~, ]1 p2 d  c4 o
in the school and workplace.
5 m5 K+ w6 S+ L; o/ @' r! O1 y" @$ Y  z實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
; N7 Z; s9 u9 L透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;" |4 X) O  v( Y% D# Y1 b
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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' d6 X5 M8 n$ W1 uAre you laughing?
6 p5 |' f3 ?0 G! g+ f- W你笑了嗎?! b5 c* O; d; S  ^: W. e

& C8 K; ], V4 k3 p; j3 CFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it4 H0 v! B% y2 y9 h" `+ G( G5 Y
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,% U+ p! }9 u: d' ~
or what they WILL think of you for sending it." k7 H8 s7 F5 O6 W4 D& x
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
" ~; z$ L; G; j' A7 [& @than what God thinks of us.% C' f, e% ]! ]2 ?: J3 v
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友," Q2 H2 D6 p! p* x8 m
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,; X1 g: s" h& n( Z, e
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。- G. O; d6 H/ }7 B! B) t/ p  T
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
! C! q; D$ F  n8 b而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。8 T1 y, [7 T! G. J

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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...2 }' g9 J# ^! t0 |: x+ ~& _
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't- S$ d( V* O6 u4 M$ _7 t
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
! @: }& ~+ \- n1 W把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話  z9 f# m0 j; X6 N- U. g4 ~
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,5 M( n) ]( W8 ^# {" a" w6 j5 [
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,7 S- t$ }) l: ~+ f: d9 d
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。9 U9 E  v! e  b1 a: s+ p
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
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有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
4 p! L" o2 U7 ]. M这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了+ g7 @1 c( S: _* |0 D

9 y8 X& T( W" Y: G所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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