市政府批准极窄住宅地

小黄

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& \3 c$ T5 I" O5 i之前房子到地界至少两侧各４尺。现在有的区域可以一侧为０，一侧为５尺。地只有２５尺。Pocket只有20尺。

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8 u) ~  I2 q: w  h) Bhttp://www.edmontonjournal.com/b ... /7226415/story.html

Extra-narrow lots approved for suburban Edmonton despite fire department concerns

Despite concerns from Edmonton’s fire department, city councillors have approved zero lot line homes — houses built so close together an adult can stand between them and touch both walls.

' D" u: K8 x- B, t. sThe starter homes in new suburbs will be 1.5 metres apart. They will be sitting on lots 7.6 metres wide, but only where a back lane accommodates parking behind every home, say new zoning rules approved Monday.
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+ h: }- g% ^5 x; Y“We just need to be diligent,” said Fire Chief Ken Block, remembering the intense MacEwan fire of 2007 when 94 houses were destroyed or damaged in the south-side neighbourhood. That fire galvanized support for the efforts of former fire chief Randy Wolsey led to tighten the building code. This zoning change makes an exception to the code.
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, s2 \/ i. `! D0 YIt’s safe as long as the double layer of fire resistant drywall or other similar material goes right up to the roof line, Block said. “We need to ensure there is no gap into the unprotected attic space. Any space or gap between the roof line and these fire resistant walls really creates a vulnerable building.”
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Zero lot line homes work by placing the narrow single family homes right up to property lines. That means the eaves and soffits of one house hang over onto the neighbour’s property. The building code also prevents the home from having windows on that wall.

The homeowner ends up with one 1.5-metre side yard, rather than two 1.2 metre yards, previously the smallest distance allowed without special council approval. Council also approved narrower lots for duplex homes in new areas, changing the minimum to 6.7 metres from 7.5 metres.
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“I’d rather take row housing,” said Coun. Ed Gibbons, worried about fire spreading between the detached houses if builders skimp on fire protection, and about water draining properly between homes. The city will need to hire more inspectors to make sure a homes are built to code, he said.

He voted for the change but with reservations. “That’s the other cost. How many fire halls are we building? Are we going to get more inspectors?”

( V6 i  R1 R: ?2 {' lCity council approved the new zoning during a public hearing Monday, at the request of Brookfield Residential developments, which is planning homes in Chappell Gardens, Paisley, and The Orchards, all new neighbourhoods in the south end.
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Some developers have built similar homes under special allowances granted by council, but this change allows any developer to do it.
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The change could save new home buyers between $12,000 and $20,000, depending on the price of land, said Louise Gibson, the developer’s vice-president of operations.
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The homes “will be three feet closer together but they’ll have as good or better fire protection,” said Gibson, describing the double drywall with a layer under the siding. That, along with the absence of any side windows, vents or soffit openings, means it takes longer for a fire to spread to adjacent homes.

6 ?0 x/ J" a/ f$ I: pStucco, stone or brick would also help, but are too expensive for a starter home, she said.

The spacing isn’t completely new. Some homes in Old Strathcona and other mature areas were built “closer together than that, and they don’t have increased fire protection,” said Gibson.

, n8 X: r; J* {" FNarrow homes were also tried in the 1980s, but consumer demand was low. That was before housing prices quadrupled.

1 z# E& o# J0 K+ h3 WSince at least 2006, land is now the largest cost when buying a new home, even in the suburbs, Coun. Don Iveson said.
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, d8 B9 J. a# [2 s“This change is good for the affordability of housing in Edmonton. It’s quite common in other places. We’re just slow off the mark.

“There’s a lot of fear when you make a change like this, that it’s going to mean no more lawns, no more green space, but there will still be plenty of green space front and back,” he said.

* ?, A8 l, b( k( {: j$ @2 T% A8 B9 vThese changes apply only in new areas. Later this fall, council will debate a motion to allow homeowners in some mature areas to divide a 15-metre lot in two to make it easier to build narrower, more affordable homes.

“One of the reasons the suburbs grow so quickly is it’s so easy to do business there,” said Iveson, arguing changes need to come to mature areas.

“If we really want to create more choice in the housing market, and if we really want to have those units to support businesses and keep schools open, we’re going to have to be more ambitious.”
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青萝

一边是零的话，那不成了duplex了吗？

小黄

青萝 发表于 2012-9-14 20:39
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不是，A家0靠B家5，B家0靠C家5, 最边地块得有两侧5.
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% u( y* O! Y+ z4 t8 ]: k+ b. ~用0/5，是因为传统中轴对称会造成2.5/2.5，过道只有2.5尺宽（实际不到，因为有栅栏厚度，还有墙体材料厚度）无法走人。至少无法走胖人。

vvgg

小黄 发表于 2012-9-15 07:17
不是，A家0靠B家5，B家0靠C家5, 最边地块得有两侧5.

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, |2 K5 Z0 T- J1 c8 f" Y要不是duplex, 那么A家靠B家的屋檐不就在B家的住宅地上面，B家靠C家的屋檐不就在C家的住宅地上面。还有一些排风装置之类的东西也不就在别人家的住宅地上面了吗？是不是只是占的是上空不是住宅地就不算占地？再说万一B家的grading没做得很合理，水流到A家，A家又无权动B家的住宅地，那可怎么办？

青萝

小黄 发表于 2012-9-15 07:17
不是，A家0靠B家5，B家0靠C家5, 最边地块得有两侧5.

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9 w' @" L0 ^" H7 O; g! R# `& D7 T不明白。如果两家都是２.５／２.５的话，过道不还是应该５宽吗？
哦，明白了。是说栅栏的两侧各有２.５.

小黄

vvgg 发表于 2012-9-15 09:47
要不是duplex, 那么A家靠B家的屋檐不就在B家的住宅地上面，B家靠C家的屋檐不就在C家的住宅地上面。还有一 ...

& p4 _* t1 q& E  E你的理解没错，这都是要省那1万5千块钱的买主需要考虑的。