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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
9 m: r4 c  x9 [& `3 ~Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?") E0 @4 X( D  z! L3 W* p5 H% A4 g$ I
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).5 k& E) L; `1 {1 J% U3 R% V$ f- {/ ^" P- n
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
' ?: M: G3 c( F上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?% i+ M# C- w9 M" e- G- s
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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5 T7 k5 G7 T+ T" W' G; sAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
0 ^7 ]) w6 }, f! B, p& r3 g7 y8 AShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
$ r, R6 ~5 E1 t) z) Fbut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,( y7 G! l: W( b$ d9 y) b
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
8 e. h8 l2 i: u1 f% y; EAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out./ Z% z  F( F' p9 }  U! ~. O& M/ p
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
6 `& f5 k7 m1 v' Xif we demand He leave us alone?"$ F4 E5 W. G& k- |4 p2 e2 P
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;# ?) A8 \8 K" y1 u6 e. M& N0 I
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
  c; J: b. F* T% I不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
3 {: E8 j. N" A+ ^上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
6 r( W6 |5 s. _7 q# t我們既然強令祂遠離我們,3 q. o5 k, I( t: h  x
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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# Q( ~9 E  @- w( WIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.* [( ~: F5 O$ Y5 o+ J+ g
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,7 s( R( R3 @$ r2 @' ~+ V3 i
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our0 n+ p' R+ F& o8 M/ U9 g
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
1 R8 ^9 e" ?0 J3 S, Sschool...) D" M$ A2 M5 a- [3 ^# {
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
0 H0 J$ b: t3 P0 p% kand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.# P& u! p  P3 Y/ U4 R/ \; x
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
' O7 E( S5 m) y, L' C) E我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士$ @( g* R' k& ~! H0 h" X
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
9 ]( u- n$ s9 ?最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、  F% N+ p8 U. \
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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" g$ X- y* S3 k0 v  W$ fThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
, Y# Q6 [. x/ m& Owhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
) E5 p( w* e" g' m7 d9 u6 l, Jand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed8 J/ p5 V/ d- T1 ?
suicide)1 _# I7 H$ i% M1 u1 Z
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
- B, |. Y* g) C2 E  |; k0 @然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
/ c' P! ^' N( p我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
, a# J* A7 W" t3 y$ V9 Z2 h0 M以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊1 w) _; ^/ q% S9 A% b
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。. D  ^6 d6 i& c3 Q# G

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# H. z% S' V+ f: A7 M) I, sThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our* N' V5 U( c" S' @* l
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member! h8 _1 [- }+ C
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave1 ?5 z6 X& O: f& y
because we don 't want any bad publicity,6 D, j% v$ u7 C, n* @- J/ m! w( S& d
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
) H2 {- r' q& }3 b3 {- obetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,; ~7 a# D7 }* Y2 N- ]. Y
etc.). And we said OK.
9 v8 ^) C2 e; ?# H然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,4 n* s) V# P# P6 f  H/ S1 B6 F* v
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,+ |6 s" z$ k' ~/ o( ~& H) t
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,9 \, n) g1 ^% I8 e
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),& \7 \- f3 S: w; I6 X
而大家同意了。' P% ?  E! Y- N3 Z
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,2 v3 W6 }3 Q& L6 @! t
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
7 `, ?0 i( D7 FThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
+ Q- ]* \9 t" `& Z, `" K( }and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms3 r& I) l$ N$ H
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
5 ]: o0 M) U+ Eand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
2 q% [- H- W8 s, hsaid OK.
2 g1 O4 X( Z# @: V* W' b然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,0 N( s; `  k1 v9 m+ B% x8 Q
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
: @+ [/ i, u6 G; @6 M6 j1 X然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
4 T; D6 O  v+ z6 g他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
& R/ L( ^) G* Y& m5 C6 @3 e好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
0 `2 t, z( g$ N. i6 `他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter! s8 ~* d8 h& ?+ T/ D( W; n
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
2 [, r5 C/ v  Uwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,$ v! k! {* s4 v9 G. u
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.- ?' P$ Y5 Z2 K( B3 \, [- t- E
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
3 B6 P* k4 h% A. W只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,/ c1 u6 h7 y) w. U8 Z
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
7 W6 V2 a. z0 s8 C只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
" Q6 I" ]& u3 l6 {5 U1 Y& M1 s1 Sand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
' j$ h3 S% C. M, z  P% p# z' d- Z1 B0 j6 r5 Iof the female body. And we said OK.4 ^3 P% t. I. [# q8 S/ J/ M
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,+ C- W9 g$ W- e: S- d
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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- f. u* D( E% N; M* xAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and, A  u5 w& x; M, O; v8 A2 l
published pictures of nude children and then further again
7 c( j; X: \2 dby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
' d* f  l- s- j$ @they're entitled to free speech.. v5 z$ F. J& ~& h! i( }
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照," A7 y/ W3 n/ O: W
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
" U! L: A2 B: S. p他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies6 x& o# p- D+ ]5 ?# D3 R4 ?' l$ Y
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music) ?3 M. Y' y9 J$ u* l0 {
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
. z  ]0 B- w1 }9 q1 I6 F7 vAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
$ C8 e8 `' b, B# m) wnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
% l& C# n: E" \2 U: W: `然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
/ [4 e( `0 d: G( q) h. r不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、3 j6 i2 L$ t# q& a$ t" _6 U
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
9 A4 b8 I+ b. `; `那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
3 \5 F) I7 B: y" Gwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
4 ]3 u5 e! V+ n: T3 V% G) A- t5 Rto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
  H' f/ F+ ]6 H) F: l1 M3 Rif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
7 ^1 a6 p8 _# j" `1 aI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.". j5 @. Y6 U+ g& }" ]
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?2 V7 B0 v! x& z% ^, l$ z
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
; Y, a) U; i' k2 ~1 p3 F為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
# l# x; r6 K/ E3 z: C! a假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
+ @; d" z7 M/ {( f我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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* `) r( i, o5 a, \$ GFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder6 f$ J5 P) U- p7 Y) ]& B' x; W
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
* G& K4 N! E1 i1 `! [say, but question what the Bible says.
. ^7 |$ _+ o9 |. N5 m% s! Y! G$ e9 F實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。! U8 x( ~; v; P+ U3 G8 ^  t5 f! c
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like! Z" y# H# Y& }- s. V
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,7 A! z) G% a" u9 i" N) c0 W1 c
people think twice about sharing.
5 |: B; T' F! F& F實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;; j! D3 l  I6 W' a  O
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
# _, c2 j$ c6 c* u6 J  T2 X" f5 v' U; c人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。3 q6 Z2 _# v9 J" s* }

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5 j6 q& t; h0 G5 k4 @" ~Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
; d6 x  [( ~- ^9 |, ~0 fthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed' D, G" d: d8 Q* \, }% T5 X: ?
in the school and workplace.
) w4 f8 L# E4 ]$ _& e0 B' E- S; r$ }1 [: c實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
7 j4 Y' L6 o% p* n4 E. P- B2 U5 g透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;6 }% p, l" l1 j+ ?3 i7 Y9 v
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。" z; z9 Q% ^4 }* q

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Are you laughing?0 N1 ^( D2 O5 W. t8 q
你笑了嗎?3 }. a0 r" Z+ E

! C+ e; C) V) b5 T% ?1 {# DFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it' }9 @$ J2 H3 ~
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
7 y8 n# s  W. }or what they WILL think of you for sending it.. Y. O. G2 D8 F) Z' {; M
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
' h. R+ C1 m! D) ?( k3 P- m9 vthan what God thinks of us.# D, u  m, N% A: P
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,, d+ ~; y6 z0 H1 E& D% l
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,0 t' C" j4 I. j2 Q/ `1 x, o
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。$ U  v- o: c- ?; X/ v" Q  _
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
" g/ S% P, K' ~4 d而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。9 }! o& N$ u& ^+ T! x6 T

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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
$ A% B! I* I( D  Tno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
5 t* n) a# F1 W/ Y* @8 tsit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!* O, J. z7 a7 Z4 W& \, {
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
9 t; \: A: n9 {  c5 A9 G若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,' U# M2 X; k3 D2 E9 G5 N0 l$ G
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
5 p/ |% r) u' ^* y* Q你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
大型搬家
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.( n( H  t$ N' m4 c$ @* H' @

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+ |! D9 Y) D( l. q5 D3 y上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
7 H3 ]- x0 a. b% O, f" s/ F5 e/ h  B  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
. h* o4 T9 F& d. Y/ f; U% C. U有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。8 G/ `, Q! l; P
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了' u9 w3 j0 t- r" s
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。. Q' J3 ~$ u5 m$ [' W% p% r+ U) c) q/ F% _

  g. }+ C0 X& m/ G- T( Y社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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