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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.: b+ I2 T2 e+ Y8 }0 K7 r( O& e
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.( b& s) b4 y/ ~+ N4 t1 e

# G- w% _4 a# a2 I0 o: I) eTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.   W) E  T: o; v6 l; Q7 x. k

$ j- A* v/ Q$ _, aTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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' f$ I7 g) Z& x* N4 C8 |- k" TMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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. r' H& P2 H. LTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,8 B. z$ ~3 Z+ o7 C5 f+ b7 Y

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
6 Q4 X! Y6 g" f! j 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。) Y$ P# I2 X. A" O5 @

/ {- t' G1 ?6 f[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
$ t# W' j6 s" @3 A5 T跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

9 `2 t2 V. t% e& G0 T很多人都回学校深造去了
1 g' ^5 _8 q8 H* }+ u嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton% b7 C4 M5 e$ x) l2 V/ {/ h
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to7 T6 p2 e% z8 l( H& _2 C4 L, \- m
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
6 m1 f; n; s9 t) T& Z  d" {$ mformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
( ]: r$ ]% y' T6 w/ Ufrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
5 f9 e4 [$ t6 |' Fthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and4 j0 L( o& C0 k) G9 R0 F( N
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
! F$ j9 v, ~4 H; S8 ?. s- \pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed) {; u6 L9 E% s0 k, j* \
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
) |* D: z2 p( ?- t- s, Z& }$ k. kto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
- c* l/ P/ t( z* d1 W* y! F: Tprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this/ W( ~. X7 M( Z. W8 H+ D; H
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
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30,000 new households will form in the province during9 [% B6 c: y* Q1 T: r/ \
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
) b# L" O5 E9 |7 ^; l. L* AEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
& ^. g" s) K! x( `! `homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
* L1 w; x' i3 R4 h7 ]( D8 ]( ?during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta- c, f) ?& R1 k0 `: o
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
8 t" X' s9 B( {; S0 v% Khouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is4 `) ]# l6 d+ T3 G. e
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of* Y5 Z( T( I2 X
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a1 ]7 X7 s& H( ~" C7 _
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
+ F0 B* F6 g( [- b. Y) T6 ~buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in: X" M4 }4 `6 b" _1 C8 Q  z$ A
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
) \1 H% n/ g" h. t! `9 Tunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7474 b6 l2 G3 D) \; h' l9 P
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
/ J9 G( Q8 i, K8 d, o  trecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
2 l3 T) t' r; U" {resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s& E; p  Q3 @. {! @, y) w
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories' c7 K) Y( b5 D  u8 m
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled; B7 W$ J. C0 |1 z* \
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
' c9 y% W/ {0 t# pThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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' z* Q+ O* x- F0 S- EAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan4 i  j" s& T/ F; [: r. P$ E- o3 z# q
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
9 ^" Z& h8 u1 x; krelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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2 g8 ~% {1 o0 _8 G: r9 Ythough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners) W' i4 r/ U/ W
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.  a! ~5 C% v- d; F$ q/ m! R1 n
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average  c, y& @9 ~) T5 d' i
resale price in February is evidence that past prices! p' G7 m% \1 \6 @+ b- V
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
/ s% M5 r% N+ l" T, s/ Qhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’$ g, M  z# W% h' ]. v# {+ _: B
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,* p( X* k) S0 _$ i& p( e
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%5 L; S/ Q. m- A
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,; y% V* D. |' W# e' ?& [
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 6 S: e. J  C; f# u4 D: u
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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: w' K" J) H8 E[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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