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发表于 2008-6-7 16:28 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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The brick wall of affordability has finally hit Canada. A slide that started in Western Canada has now reached Toronto. Canada's Housing Boom Is Over.& X5 A5 e" B. ^: F& A

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"Canada's six-year housing market boom is officially over," said Douglas Porter, deputy chief economist at BMO Capital Markets."
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The Canadian Real Estate Association reported 75,476 homes changed hands in the first quarter of 2008, down 13% from the first quarter of 2007. In March, sales dropped 18.7% from the same month the year before, including a 39.7% slide in Calgary, a 34% drop in Edmonton and a 22.2% drop in Toronto.
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0 U7 Q# f. N2 HNew listings surged 29.8% in Calgary and 52% in Edmonton in the first quarter as the market has run into a brick wall of affordability, slowing growth and immigration after years of spectacular price gains.
* g5 q7 R- u( e: m2 OMy Comment: It appears the pool of greater fools has finally run out in Canada, and rising inventories of homes for sale is the key. Prices will be sticky for a while, just as they were in the US for about 6-9 months. Instead of huge price declines, inventory will continue to rise. Meanwhile, denials will run deep with all kinds of "It's different here" logic. Rest assured, it's not different in Canada.
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% r" Q, Y1 [: Z3 u& K( a4 d"Double-digit declines in resale activity at the same time as sizable listing increases don't bode well for the controlled housing cool-down [that was expected]," said Derek Holt, vice-president of economics at Scotia Capital. "The fact that it showed up very strongly in the Toronto numbers as well suggests it's not just a Western Canadian story."+ ^: s/ X- [5 v4 t1 _- o

; w/ ~& N0 B6 {% b, xMy Comment: It always starts somewhere. In the US it was Florida, then it quickly spread to Phoenix, Boston, and Las Vegas. Places like Ohio and Michigan never had a boom in the first place but they are sinking anyway.: o4 E( _, Q9 H( ?1 @  X  C

. Z: M" \+ {7 W5 Q+ L/ S9 w: N8 yStill, most economists do not think Canada is heading for the kind of housing meltdown the United States is going through. Employment, the key driver of housing sales, is still strong and Canada did not indulge in nearly the same amount of high-risk sub-prime mortgage lending as the United States.( M4 p' ^$ D9 _

4 O0 D0 w+ G9 G9 Y2 e* }' |Canadians have been taking out longer amortizations -- as much as 40 years in some cases -- to afford the price increases of recent years, but there has been little of the no-documentation, low-documentation or interest-only mortgage origination that fueled so much of the U.S. housing boom.
, a& m8 s& V! Q4 i# qMy Comment: Economists in Canada are dead wrong. By historic standards, employment, is still high in the US. What matters is affordability. People cannot really afford the prices here, and it is a mistake to think that 40 year amortizations in Canada will make things affordable up North. 100 year amortizations would not help the US and they will not help Canada either.
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Ted Carmichael, chief economist at JPMorgan, notes U.S. housing starts crested at more than two million at the peak of the U.S. boom at the turn of 2007, well above the 1.5 million that demographic trends should have allowed.
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Canadian housing starts peaked at 277,300 in September, 2007, and have definitely been running hot in the 225,000 range, but the demand has been there; a lot has come from Canadians migrating to Western Canada in search of work as well as new international immigration to Canada's big cities.! i! R7 B4 ^  L6 y& l
My Comment: Demand was high in the US too. People were camping out over night in Florida hoping to win lotteries to buy a condo preconstruction. Demand can and will change on a dime. It has already. Rising inventories prove the pool of greater fools has exhausted itself. Finally!& \8 s4 X9 {4 R% c
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"I would say Canada's situation right now is somewhat better than it was when we were going into the 1990 to '91 recession," Mr. Carmichael said. "Since 1990, home builders have learned to sell their homes largely before they build them."
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Mr. Carmichael thinks starts will drop back below 200,000 and it would not be surprising to see outright price declines in the next 12 to 18 months. He added the Bank of Canada will have to cut interest rates even more significantly to make home buying more affordable again.
7 N( F) V% U) F" A& CMy Comment: Cutting interest rates will not make homes more affordable. Instead it will fuel price increases elsewhere, such as in food and gasoline. Housing bubbles, once popped, do not reinflate for years, sometimes decades. Why is it so hard to learn from history? Did Cutting interest rates from 5.25 to 2.25 make houses more affordable in the US or did it further weaken the US dollar causing gasoline prices to explode?2 a# u* m% m5 e: W- h

7 w! p2 w1 l1 R6 [+ o4 ROngoing turmoil in the international credit markets have not left Canadian banks unscathed. Even though the central bank has slashed its key interest rate to 3.50% from 4.50% since December, mortgage rates have come down only about half as much. Banks are facing higher funding rates themselves and have been reluctant to pass on the savings fully.+ G2 c4 g/ w/ C4 G' C
My Comment: Mortgage rates did not come down in the US either, except existing ARMs tied to treasuries or LIBOR. New loans did not follow suit. The reason is default risk. So even as Carmichael thinks rates need to come so mortgages are more affordable, Canadians would be advised to not hold their breath waiting for that passthrough. In the UK, the BOE had to demand passthrough for that to happen. See Central Bankers Guessing Everywhere for a hint at how distorted this global mess is.
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- A+ \3 |8 v6 Q' ~" fMany economists expect the Bank of Canada to cut rates another half a percentage point on Tuesday, perhaps invigorating the spring selling season, which could prove to be the key test for the Canadian housing market going forward.. P4 u; j1 ^; u3 ^  Y
My Comment: Look at the Record Home Price Drop In Southern California and a 57% increase in foreclosures as examples of not so invigorating Spring Selling in the US.( L* p2 c5 D8 |* z* m' {+ M% M' A1 a

: X. B$ b6 E; A6 `5 ]The party's over, Canada. Look at the US for what's to come.+ y6 ]' K1 v# Z+ \! j6 S

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发表于 2008-6-8 09:23 | 显示全部楼层
Good article!
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发表于 2008-6-9 19:11 | 显示全部楼层
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you added lots of comments. if not read carefully, also fooled and thought that is part of the article. next time please use different color. thanks
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: y. e* r3 D& m- u0 y/ RI read too much of these news. it really doesn't matter. if i am renting, i will still rent till a day the rent increases to a certain high level then i will buy. If i have a house, i will still live there till a day I have a big family or more money to move up. If i have more than one house, i will still rent it out no matter the market drops or what and will adjust the rent accordingly.  you bother because you don't have a house. if you have a house and like the market to crash. then
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