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亚省的真实经济现状

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发表于 2007-12-11 09:06 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Bloom is off the boom in Alberta's formerly red hot economy7 U& J* @5 C- i1 J/ r
Pockets of trouble starting to appear all over once you look past the oilsands3 E9 y" z3 J* u- x" q$ e
Gary Lamphier, The Edmonton Journal
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EDMONTON - As Albertans prepare to bid adieu to 2007, it's clear that the province's once-torrid economy is already in slowdown mode, with the cyclical peak of 2006 fading fast in the rear-view mirror.
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There's no denying it: Alberta's most recent economic boom is history. Although the economy shows no signs of falling off a cliff in 2008, the once-isolated pockets of economic pain have become too numerous to ignore.( h: R, W; D$ |% y0 o
Housing markets in Calgary and Edmonton have softened and the once-mighty stampede of migrants from other provinces has slowed. In fact, more Albertans are now moving to Saskatchewan or British Columbia than the reverse.
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# x* k$ R& j, `% tThe natural gas sector is struggling in the face of low prices and a strong loonie. Many drilling firms are in deep trouble. Roughly half of Western Canada's rig fleet sits idle and thousands of workers have been laid off. Alberta's forest products industry is also awash in bad news. With the U.S. housing market in the ditch, the mountain pine beetle chewing its way eastward and rising shipping costs hurting pulp producers, there's little relief in sight.
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Alberta's manufacturing sector also has been sideswiped by the high loonie, as has the province's tourism sector. Beef exports, a mainstay of Alberta's agricultural sector, are hurting also.
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In fact, if not for the red-hot pace of development in the oilsands, one has to wonder what kind of shape Alberta's economy would be in.
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On the bright side, unemployment remains low, well-paying jobs remain plentiful, oil prices are high and are likely to remain high in 2008, and the inventory of unsold homes is starting to moderate.
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Still, the headline numbers can be misleading. Often, if one takes the time to scratch below the surface, the top-line figures mask even more troubling signs of looming economic weakness.
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) f, s; M  ^5 pConsider Alberta's migration numbers. As almost everyone knows, Alberta's population continues to grow at the fastest rate of any province in Canada.7 o- i$ D' J3 @" I# K2 p: |

, a$ F% Z9 U) ZAccording to Alberta Finance, the province's population grew by nearly 3.1 per cent during the year ended July 1. By comparison, the population of B.C. -- Canada's second-fastest growing province -- grew by just 1.4 per cent, and Saskatchewan's grew by less than one per cent.
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2 z- N# q" j  Q3 W& D" l, D- CBut here's what the top-line figures don't show. The number of temporary workers who are moving to Alberta is skyrocketing. And few temporary workers are likely to buy new homes, condos, cars or appliances. Many live in work camps or in overcrowded rental units.
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During the first two quarters of 2007, temp workers accounted for almost 9,000 of the nearly 32,000 net newcomers who moved to Alberta. That was up more than 150 per cent from the prior-year period./ A% @1 [( n5 E% M' m

# L. {2 b  U& b$ Y$ A6 ~. |Overall, temp workers comprised 28 per cent of all new net workers who relocated to Alberta in the first half of 2007. For all of 2006, the total was just 8.5 per cent.
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/ L7 O; M3 O2 e4 X" fThe trend is clear. Alberta's economy, long based on oil and gas extraction, now depends on extracting workers as well.
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That may be the quickest way to staff an oilsands project in a province with chronic labour shortages. But it's no way to build a strong, diversified economy where there's healthy, sustainable demand for housing and a multitude of consumer products. The gains are short-term only.
- F9 j8 z! K- t3 lNow let's take a look at Alberta's retail sector. At first blush, it looks rather robust.3 ^- ]% X, w) ?0 M$ v- I- b
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Year-over-year sales are still running in the seven-per-cent range, notes Todd Hirsch, senior economist at ATB Financial.
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Although that's well above the national rate, it's some 10 percentage points below the sky-high growth rates of a year ago, when ex-premier Ralph Klein issued his infamous $400 "Ralph Bucks" cheques to provincial residents.7 H; _2 T4 W+ P( g) {( N0 I9 R
But even the current seven-per-cent growth rate is a tad misleading. First of all, it doesn't take into account Alberta's inflation rate, which is currently north of five per cent. Nor does it factor in population growth. Excluding temp workers, that's running at about two per cent.
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" N1 J6 T$ m! }In other words, Alberta's retail sales are now basically flat, on a per-capita, inflation-adjusted basis. "In some cases it might even be negative. And now we have the high dollar, which is inducing a lot of cross-border shopping too," says Hirsch.  H% [8 H8 n6 ]  c2 @8 P, h+ h
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Alberta's auto dealers, appliance stores and high-end clothing outlets are likely feeling the most pain, he figures.
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( U& \7 R0 p4 a"Judging by what we're seeing, particularly among the auto dealers, they're really trying to offer whatever discounts they can, or they're lowering their financing costs or whatever," he adds." P  y% ^+ k( |: [2 \1 F2 N

! q. o8 t0 c6 P- G( ^" P0 T- Q& l"So I would think it's the higher ticket items that are getting hit the most, the types of things you'd buy maybe once every five years. I don't think it's the Wal-Marts of the world that are getting hit."1 X( t( G2 B2 r% A

' f3 A* g6 T  cTo paraphrase that Alberta bumper sticker from the '70s, I hope you had the good sense during the latest oil boom not to piss it all away.) K/ ^; l7 [1 o  c, T0 J
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glamphier@thejournal.canwest.com
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发表于 2007-12-11 10:38 | 显示全部楼层
严重支持作者的观点。我刚刚在报纸上看到这篇文章,正要贴出来。不想被Plumber抢了先。
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发表于 2007-12-11 18:51 | 显示全部楼层
费了好大劲才读完了。
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发表于 2007-12-11 19:14 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 依勒特 于 2007-12-11 10:38 发表
! B1 N5 E7 P& B! G2 _/ `严重支持作者的观点。我刚刚在报纸上看到这篇文章,正要贴出来。不想被Plumber抢了先。

0 P6 r) N# }- C6 J作者的观点是什么?
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发表于 2007-12-11 20:01 | 显示全部楼层
简单讲:就是经济降温了
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发表于 2007-12-11 20:42 | 显示全部楼层
谁给翻译一下阿,我出1w加币!!
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8 V- [" P4 A+ _: J哈哈哈哈哈哈。
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发表于 2007-12-12 08:56 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
No kidding, Are you sure? I can do it.
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发表于 2007-12-12 11:16 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2007-12-12 13:29 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 giss 于 2007-12-12 08:56 发表   V1 t* V1 s7 ^2 c7 N* d( t$ y
No kidding, Are you sure? I can do it.

. U3 L' ~% F8 Q7 J我监督他给你网上的1万加币,放心吧。
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发表于 2007-12-12 14:06 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
水管工不好好去修水管,天天盯在房产版上,发些惟恐天下不乱的消息
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发表于 2007-12-12 15:27 | 显示全部楼层
阴暗正随着红火的本省经济腾飞悄然而来
0 e" Z* u4 F3 f& z) c  _* i很多问题正在开始弥漫在广袤的油砂地里,。- W( F9 {: M5 Q  z
当本省人民准备面对2007时,回顾才猛然发现2006年的周期高点,曾经的热带经济已经明显地冷下来啦。。# A3 @) t) h' H3 R" R% c
无可否认,本省最近的辉煌已经成为历史,尽管没有迹象显示经济会从2008年坠下悬崖,从孤立少量的经济阵痛已经成为不可忽视的无数的问题。9 P/ X7 Y  J+ q& l! h& j" J) B
2大城市的房屋市场已经软化,其它省得迁移来的劳工从曾经的纷至沓来到现在的人迹罕至,事实上,越来越多的本省人正搬家到 Saskatchewan或BC,而不是相反。9 [2 y  h# }6 S5 J
天然气部分正在面对低价和强劲加币而挣扎,半数钻机队伍休工,成千工人被解雇。森林工业产品也是充满坏消息,美国房屋市场的下挫,松虫肆虐,高昂的运输费用& O  Y6 ]1 y+ U1 Z1 H4 W7 p" f
制造业更是拜加币的强劲所赐而被横扫,和旅游业一样,牛肉出口,作为本省农业的支柱,也饱受残害+ j. l# ^! H9 r4 @* r
实际上,如果不是油砂工程的火热开发,很难想象本省经济会是啥样子
/ u9 d; u& i/ v+ F! l/ y5 G, \* |当然,有利因素也不少,低失业率,高薪工作很多,油价高昂似乎能坚持到2008,库存房屋开始恢复到温和数量。,然而,头条们仍然在误导,通常,掩盖在表面现象下的脆弱经济问题更加严重
$ O# a+ ~! \1 X7 Q1 k考虑一下本省的移民数量吧,大家都知道,本省人口是加拿大增加最快的,
! k6 ?5 x/ T; Y# r, N根据本经财政统计,截止到今年7.1,人口增加3.1%,同比, BC 1.4%, Saskatchewan 小于1% 但是这里有头条没有显示的,临时外来劳工占据的比例很大,这些人不买房子,和其他大件用品,很多人正在帐篷里或拥挤的出租房里。& d& g0 o$ \1 A3 @( b  t" N' N
在2007头2个财季,共来9000名临时劳工,而同期新来人口才32000,是去年的1.5倍。$ ~2 h/ D/ [! W1 I" }3 Q! i$ r
总体上,临时劳工占28%,而2006年只有8.5%& q. H+ r7 K5 w/ v# \5 I# F' R2 G/ I) [
趋势明显,本省经济不仅随着油气工业而萎缩,也随着外来人口失调而萎缩。
8 J8 `+ V( k/ U2 O也许是个快办法,能迅速解决本省油砂项目的劳工短缺,但是对建立健康、灵活的经济(可持续的房屋需求和其他消费类产品)无补,利益只是眼前的,让我们看看零售业吧,猛一看,似乎相当强劲。& @; f6 g# Y7 Z6 Z; `; P
ATB 高级经济师Todd Hirsch说 每年增加7%,& g$ n% U5 Y6 {
尽管高于全国水平,仍然低于创纪录的去年水平 10%,当年前省长下发了沾满油污的400块支票给大家。% N& c6 p& N# X9 j$ W! {' v3 N- q
但是即使7%也是个误导,因为没有考虑通胀因素,北部一般是5%,也没有考虑人口增加因素,如果剔除临时劳工,只有2%的增加。- @+ d9 x/ O+ K+ ^2 H
换句话说,本省零售一般如果考虑通胀因素,Hirsch说,结果甚至可能是负面的,现在我们有强势加币,包括大量的南下购物。) r3 Z" }/ l! v0 {
本省汽车销售、电器,高端服装似乎更难看。
  j) B; \. l5 ]2 I7 w5 r只凭我们看到的,特别是汽车销售,他们似乎随意打折,或者尽可能降低财务支出。
& T  z! M: a8 K2 E; y1 q"So I would think it's the higher ticket items that are getting hit the most, the types of things you'd buy maybe once every five years. I don't think it's the Wal-Marts of the world that are getting hit."- v& v! I# y+ d0 Y* S
To paraphrase that Alberta bumper sticker from the '70s, I hope you had the good sense during the latest oil boom not to piss it all away.
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原帖由 鸡蛋 于 2007-12-12 14:06 发表 0 R& h3 D. G$ |4 C- o
水管工不好好去修水管,天天盯在房产版上,发些惟恐天下不乱的消息6 k7 @7 F' e3 a# H8 V  r/ a# \
社会底层的心理变态症状.

: C. `/ z1 X+ x4 e6 x- u像楼主这样看英文报纸,关心经济形势分析并愿意和人分享的“社会底层”,我是要赞一下的。
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 楼主| 发表于 2007-12-12 15:31 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
原帖由 鸡蛋 于 2007-12-12 14:06 发表 ! u* v8 q; c3 T. N0 \
水管工不好好去修水管,天天盯在房产版上,发些惟恐天下不乱的消息
) O8 V# B' m! F% M, W社会底层的心理变态症状.

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是不是炒房套住了, 变得这么歇斯底里? 你这上层人物也太没风度了.
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我只是转载Edmonton Journal的文章, 难到Journal也惟恐天下不乱?
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发表于 2007-12-12 15:37 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
原帖由 鸡蛋 于 2007-12-12 14:06 发表 6 o- n+ G: ^4 Y. i8 A
水管工不好好去修水管,天天盯在房产版上,发些惟恐天下不乱的消息1 c& F' s8 r9 h5 l- u7 j
社会底层的心理变态症状.
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2 \( X) j9 q2 I/ y1 A% h$ C0 d7 c9 Hgive you 一面镜子 照 照
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原帖由 水管工 于 2007-12-12 15:31 发表
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1 U6 n& y& V$ ?  ]* @* S是不是炒房套住了, 变得这么歇斯底里? 你这上层人物也太没风度了. 9 L5 f% q; L. i# U4 `2 u0 ~- \
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我只是转载Edmonton Journal的文章, 难到Journal也惟恐天下不乱?

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可怜下吧,他推荐的朋友的4M房子还在挂着呐。
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http://www.mls.ca/PropertyDetail ... ;PropertyID=5468640
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原帖由 鸡蛋 于 2007-12-12 14:06 发表 ' [9 [( e; ~" I/ Q
水管工不好好去修水管,天天盯在房产版上,发些惟恐天下不乱的消息' v1 z! B5 c2 n
社会底层的心理变态症状.
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像楼主这样看英文报纸,关心经济形势分析并愿意和人分享的“社会底层”,我是要赞一下的。
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, K$ z# |" c. K. J" Z, j" m8 f同感.支持楼主.顺便说一句:偶倒是觉得办公室里面的勾心斗角很讨厌的,不论是国内还是国外
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发表于 2007-12-12 22:40 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
原帖由 giss 于 2007-12-12 15:27 发表
. t; G* h0 I% e( w实际上,如果不是油砂工程的火热开发,很难想象本省经济会是啥样子  c+ Q4 K; S"  

4 r& f8 q  ~  ]4 u0 G事实上,正是因为油砂工程高投入和高产出,才有阿省经济的火热。算上油砂,阿省才敢吹牛,石油储量世界排行第几。1 E1 y" r9 |0 M- s( x# k* l
但是资源税确实不是一个利好消息,也体现执政者的政策水平太差。好好学人家美联储调利率的办法,每次都条那么一点,加起来也不少。
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理袁律师事务所
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发表于 2007-12-16 18:05 | 显示全部楼层
送出1000 朵花,合10000加币给Giss。谢谢!!
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???

老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
有没有这么惨啊???到处看看,不都还挺忙活的吗???
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原帖由 又见清风 于 2007-12-16 18:05 发表
7 F8 F" q# \4 ?1 n送出1000 朵花,合10000加币给Giss。谢谢!!

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Thank you so much, I think I am flattered.
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同言同羽 置业良晨
原帖由 catty 于 2007-12-12 18:38 发表
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可怜下吧,他推荐的朋友的4M房子还在挂着呐。* Z, `, B! f* T# g
不知道能砍下多少?
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我知道这房子底线。记得去年挂牌的时候是2M整...# c$ \+ ?8 h: ~9 X4 x
所以说,超过2M的都是纯利。
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同言同羽 置业良晨
不会吧。
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