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中国留学生温哥华郊区买56万房子,七天后需交8万4千税,进退两难。

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: U! b0 W' o* j7 K- j在萨省大学拿到公共管理硕士后,29岁的李京拿到工作需可,搬到温哥华,在温哥华郊区兰里镇买了一个56万的 townhouse ,七天后,关于外国人买房的新税实施,李需多交8万4千加元税。 李再向父母要钱,父母说实在拿不出那么多钱,李京陷入进退两难的境地。( c) N  m' `* T2 j. X
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李京说:“我以为加拿大是个民主公平的国家”,但现在李平不能肯定加拿大是不是一个民主公平的国家。
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) x% T6 p9 T! n! S; ~苏海评论: 这个中国学生的境遇值得同情,但民主公平的国家仍然是一个国家,国家的概念要搞清楚。一个国家的政府的第一职责是保护本国人民的安全和利益。BC 政府的新税政策是对是错是不是应该从一国政府的根本职责为基点来讨论。  ]/ G7 v7 {; q2 Q6 s6 h
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University grad faces $84K foreign buyers tax on Langley, B.C., townhome: K2 z4 X, z# |( J
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'I can't go forward and also can't go back,' says University of Saskatchewan grad. M; O. X6 v) o2 }

( _$ s- M* ?) J/ `' TBy Jane Armstrong, CBC News Posted: Aug 16, 2016 5:00 AM PT Last Updated: Aug 16, 2016 8:13 AM PT3 e6 W0 r+ n% r7 ]1 s
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0 F9 W2 d& o9 Z3 ]& w; C% ~9 [1 SAfter completing her degree at the University of Saskatchewan last spring, Chinese student Jing Li decided to put down permanent roots in Canada.
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. z# m" X  y/ a4 I+ f7 [Jing, 29, obtained a work permit, moved to the Vancouver area and made an offer on a townhouse in Langley, B.C., in mid-July.. R) x: `" {& S
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"The beauty and kindness of B.C. inspired me to move here," she said.
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+ t& b6 W3 [9 e6 p' [$ f7 U2 KJing cobbled together a 10 per cent deposit on the $560,000 property by borrowing from her parents in China. She said they in turn borrowed money from friends and family.! e0 p4 X# ?" _  k# \
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But last month, 12 days after Jing signed the purchase contract, the B.C. government threw a wrench in Jing's Canadian dream when it levied a 15 per cent property transfer tax on foreign real estate buyers in the Vancouver area.: T9 C% }% y) z1 m
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Jing is not a permanent resident in Canada, so the tax adds $84,000 to the home's cost, something she's certain she can't afford. But if she backs out of the deal, she would lose her deposit of about $56,000.
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1 K! l* f' Z, x"Now, I can't go forward and also can't go back."/ R9 p; B# ]' \8 }9 ]
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Her mother cried when Jing called her parents in China to tell them about the tax. They had no more money to lend her.& i9 K8 u# w# D7 u' |# l3 {

! B' E4 z( I5 N/ q) c" c" RJing said her father is a geologist for a mining company. Her mother stays at home.2 j2 f- V' W% G, @
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Parents saved for Jing's future+ ^/ G- j) P( J! n4 ^& X: r
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She said her parents saved all their lives to send her to university in Canada.; {, I) }- W' u

3 G, H1 V7 A6 I2 P3 c" x& bAfter earning a master's degree last spring in public administration from the University of Saskatchewan, she moved to Burnaby, B.C., where she lives in an apartment with some university friends.
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$ k6 ^2 _5 U# r5 K) Y1 e& @8 I- wStaying in Canada was Jing's idea, and now she feels guilty.% b# L7 K' f4 l& V* O
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"I think this is my fault," she said in halting English. "If I don't want to study, work and live in Canada, this disaster would not happen to my family.' ~' B( a* t4 U$ |- d

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/ j6 m' \, E+ l7 k9 OBruce Copp, managing broker at Sutton Group West Coast, the real estate firm used by Jing, confirmed Jing made the offer on the Langley property in July.
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Did not expect tax
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9 i/ N0 q2 u" i4 M) X: o3 JWhen the government introduced the tax last month, it said its stated aim was to make housing more affordable for middle-class buyers., |0 L, y* x" n! I3 N

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% A4 Y& |$ K0 c+ R! [5 g' cIn July, Jing paid a deposit on this townhouse in Langley. Twelve days later, the province introduced the 15 per cent property transfer tax for foreign buyers in the Vancouver area. (Jing Li)9 L8 ~/ h* p9 U3 _
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Real estate prices in the Vancouver area have soared in recent years. Some have argued that foreign buyers have contributed to this rise, which has left many local buyers priced out of their own city.
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% _6 c* A( A. _, QJing said she never would have bought the Langley property had she known a tax was on the horizon.. j6 y- X; |: v* P& k
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She said she felt entrapped by the government when it announced the tax.
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& P3 B  S" o5 @  ~"In my mind, Canada is a democratic and fair country."+ F8 Q  H( Q8 J/ D

9 E. X4 ?6 |5 g  w  cNow she is not so sure.
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- C8 J. c# a1 u; a# `  VIn July, Jing paid a deposit on this townhouse in Langley. Twelve days later, the province introduced the 15 per cent property transfer tax for foreign buyers in the Vancouver area.
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-8-16 10:43 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 苏海 于 2016-8-16 11:16 编辑 9 W9 D% H4 F( G# i. ?
reneeqq 发表于 2016-8-16 09:47
! s/ [# ]7 Y# v  u( ?; C民主在他们眼里就是:我占便宜的权力

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3 L# I  G  u2 N7 |4 c  C  K谢谢reneeqq回复. 这女孩头发染成黄色,看来是想融入白人社会,而不是黑头发的华人社会。但采访她的记者说她的英语是halting English (蹩脚的英语),就是下面她说的英语:
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/ w  K+ s7 P6 C9 }"I think this is my fault," she said in halting English. "If I don't want to study, work and live in Canada, this disaster would not happen to my family.”
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"I hope there is somebody could tell me what I can do."/ s3 g% S- [2 D7 d6 n

! E* X/ k* h2 r. k$ q "If I don't want to study, work and live in Canada, this disaster would not happen to my family.” 洋人听到这种英语,歧视这个女士的可能性肯定大于接受她的可能性。鉴于李京的父亲是知识分子,靠工资生活,我建议李京立即退掉房子,吞下损失五万六千加元定金的苦果,因为家里经济已经困难,60多万加元(三百多万人民币)房款将会把全家拖入债务泥潭,先解决工作身份问题,买房不是当务之急。$ m7 Y4 f4 ]) A

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 楼主| 发表于 2016-8-16 11:22 | 显示全部楼层
三硝基甲苯 发表于 2016-8-16 11:10- r8 i6 Y6 l7 ?7 \) M0 C( w
i start to question the legitimacy of this article.9 o. L7 O- I2 B1 ?

; S. a; V* C# n) X: J0 d4 W! C) \first of all, a quick search from U of S conv ...
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她交的是定金五万六千,她是现金买房,外国人在加拿大银行很难贷款,或没有加拿大永久居留身份,加拿大银行不给贷款,随时可以跑掉, 风险太大。* |, c4 e2 j4 r+ t( E3 _: l" k
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民主在他们眼里就是:我占便宜的权力

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nebula0618  在2016-8-18 19:29  砸了鸡蛋  并说:我不同意你的观点,砸个鸡蛋反对一下
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发表于 2016-8-16 10:20 | 显示全部楼层
难办拉!!
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发表于 2016-8-16 10:26 | 显示全部楼层
DON'T PLAY THE GAME IF YOU AIN'T GOT THE DOUGH
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没事,千万别小瞧中国人的口袋。我在国内几年,最深的感触就是,在这混的很好的牛人,回中国就是一个穷人!!
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发表于 2016-8-16 11:10 | 显示全部楼层
i start to question the legitimacy of this article.
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first of all, a quick search from U of S convocation records for the past 2 years, there is no person graduated under the name Jing Li or Li Jing.4 @% }0 v& O0 ^( C0 C9 Y) t
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2nd of all, if you are foreign with no income, aren't you supposed to have minimum 30% down in order to qualify for a mortgage, how did she qualify with only 10%???
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# C4 E; K' H- [either the journalist is misleading or there was some miscommunication with the scenario.

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tangcf2004  在2016-8-19 13:32  送朵鲜花  并说:我非常同意你的观点,送朵鲜花鼓励一下
wantU  在2016-8-16 14:44  送朵鲜花  并说:我非常同意你的观点,送朵鲜花鼓励一下
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发表于 2016-8-16 13:46 | 显示全部楼层
很不公平。对于已经签约的人应该免掉这笔交易税。
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现金买房的人会缺钱?
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i start to question the legitimacy of this article.4 z& ?1 k1 u; g% R
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first of all, a quick search from U of S conv ...
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国际学生不会仅10%首付,很多都不用贷款一次付清,加拿大房子对他们太便宜了。
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本帖最后由 ballard 于 2016-8-16 17:17 编辑
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5 A' P' @6 K( d6 c结婚zhao 找外援
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那正宗的不蹩脚的英语咋说呢?
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万事通 发表于 2016-8-16 13:46
& y  V: Z$ D: R9 z很不公平。对于已经签约的人应该免掉这笔交易税。
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是的。应该有一个划断
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发表于 2016-8-16 20:15 | 显示全部楼层
没钱吧就别装,干吗非要在温哥华买房呢
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发表于 2016-8-16 21:27 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得很有意思,这篇文章原文在yahoo上,大部分的评论仇视中国人,让国人赶紧回国,现在有人转载过来了, 竟然大部分的国人也仇视中国人
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发表于 2016-8-17 08:25 | 显示全部楼层
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如果觉得外国人买房子贷款随时能跑掉的说法就是不现实的,比如你35%然后跑掉了。不还款了是不是。比如你住了一个月不换了,相对于租房子你赚了还是赔了?
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. I- j) @5 E4 i3 o) W. N& ~! U每个国家都第一保护他的国民。 对于外国买房子的,可能利用价格波动洗劫本国人,
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比如上次的大妈打了售货员耳光,中国的信用卡公司是帮助清查信用卡盗刷还是只管收持卡人的钱?5 P# W4 A% [1 q8 a  I! p9 F" q8 z
如果申述欺诈刷卡的盗贼,持卡人那么着急扇售货员么?
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咱们的人都已经习惯了不作为的管理者,对于能保护自己国民的“统治阶级”反而看不懂了。) G" @1 E+ [' G8 z! @# K, z# ~8 B  [4 ~
或者咱的国民非常愚昧,早就了灰常灰常灰常费解的领导阶层。4 M; [7 ?: y! m9 ]; Z$ B0 l
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国人很傻很傻,既不会算账,也不知道好赖人,也不知道是非,也不知道规则。确实由于自己的愚昧而蔑视规则,不论这个规则是为啥设置,能不能够保护自己 。
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发表于 2016-8-17 09:52 | 显示全部楼层
共铲主义并非中国人原创的。BC政府此举,有很明显的背离法治,背离保护私有财产的倾向,朝着共铲主义又迈进一大步。即使是本版上天天骂共铲党的人,请自问,你是真的反对共铲理念,还是仅仅是羡慕嫉妒恨而已?
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发表于 2016-8-17 18:20 | 显示全部楼层
为什么新政策七天后生效还应用到之前的购房上,谁给解释一下?
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ca991 发表于 2016-8-16 20:15
) A4 `' Y' V. y7 c1 F8 X8 C没钱吧就别装,干吗非要在温哥华买房呢

8 @9 X9 J- t* P1 u人家在那边工作,怎么办?
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lufog 发表于 2016-8-16 21:27+ ]4 S( @) g# r$ j% |7 G" o
我觉得很有意思,这篇文章原文在yahoo上,大部分的评论仇视中国人,让国人赶紧回国,现在有人转载过来了,  ...

, \' @1 }, N( y* B/ m1 |7 i  Z我宁当 Asshole, 也不当中国人。中国人这个品牌已经烂得没谱了
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reneeqq 发表于 2016-8-17 20:16
" V) a3 H) h) f) N6 P, V) O! J我宁当 Asshole, 也不当中国人。中国人这个品牌已经烂得没谱了

8 {# O: w+ d8 Y, y$ ^9 S# QDon't let the door hit your ass on your way out ! What a douche
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发表于 2016-8-17 20:34 | 显示全部楼层
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不想当中国人,就去练葵花宝典吧
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发表于 2016-8-17 21:06 | 显示全部楼层
租房就没事了,向父母要钱,谁为父母养老?我一直租房,我做好照顾老妈的准备
4 f; P. ~, d) A- m, {/ k损失五万六千加元定金,让父母旅游养老多好.为买房把全家拖入债务泥潭,这孩子基本属于白养!
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老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
红楼梦中的好了歌
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6 z; l: J3 }2 h痴心父母古来多,孝顺儿孙谁见了?) z' e( v0 b2 r5 R9 u7 J6 w

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古今将相在何方?荒冢一堆草没了!5 l& [- {7 y/ N* \$ b9 a6 G
世人都晓神仙好,只有金银忘不了!
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世人都晓神仙好,只有姣妻忘不了!/ y, Z7 r  D- ^9 N2 u2 x  G/ A# V
君生日日说恩情,君死又随人去了,
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痴心父母古来多,孝顺儿孙谁见了?
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苏海 发表于 2016-8-17 21:20
$ D8 N; `7 B$ ?* `红楼梦中的好了歌# M- ]" u( g( U5 E$ f

3 ~  _! f. P2 q$ c痴心父母古来多,孝顺儿孙谁见了?/ Y. S# ~- C7 v) Z" a6 D. m6 U

' ~% `- }3 Q& `# e# S% z说为孩子好的父母都是在自欺欺人,孩子需要豪宅还是一个自由自在的环境?
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发表于 2016-8-18 05:18 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2016-8-17 21:06
2 |6 }$ ?* Z3 m' M' e( X. m# [租房就没事了,向父母要钱,谁为父母养老?我一直租房,我做好照顾老妈的准备: ~3 x0 j+ W! k% q& L- M
损失五万六千加元定金,让父母旅 ...

. N1 C2 x2 l) n$ |$ r( ?那是呆鸟一个。就是这蛋多鹰才骂国人。
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reneeqq 发表于 2016-8-17 21:30
: \2 X" _# `) G4 J+ h( Q- A说为孩子好的父母都是在自欺欺人,孩子需要豪宅还是一个自由自在的环境?

; W, N9 d- |8 ?5 n) V) o3 n' Q那些为孩子好不顾一切的二货
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ballard 发表于 2016-8-18 05:18
$ R5 o3 ~$ p0 X: u那是呆鸟一个。就是这蛋多鹰才骂国人。
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这蛋多鹰的意思是他自己不配当中国人,只配做中国的狗
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reneeqq 发表于 2016-8-17 20:16
, [. ~/ f9 c1 \* ~- Q5 \% k我宁当 Asshole, 也不当中国人。中国人这个品牌已经烂得没谱了

5 A4 }2 ?1 ?. Y9 e看你不順眼很久了 總是來些井底之蛙的論點
4 \; K! R9 s5 n5 f一下中國人不好 一下加拿大不好  
/ o- B2 c$ P5 u3 {, g說穿你就是個牆頭草 兩邊倒 - j6 t6 W5 h) P# k: R* m
最煩這種沒有立場 東倒西歪的狗屁理論 1 b: f- v) Q8 v7 O* B" d
個個來愛城都是來打拼的
! d$ A/ R2 l* D* ?( u你看看你自己 成天閒的論壇那個帖子沒你的回復% q8 P4 `5 q7 |9 B9 A) C: d) `
該幹嘛幹嘛去吧  可憐的傢伙你真是
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