最近看房的同志们有什么感慨阿。。。

lilyba

最近看房，发现西南区房源少的可怜，不是转角，就是高压线。西边老区呢，根本没房子。便宜房子走得相当快。

$ G' Q8 W; r9 E$ N. ]% r2 w考虑周边的房子，发现中国人太少，学校不注重学习成绩。。。不大感冒这个风险。还是走稳健的路。

同志们有什么感想阿。。。

爱城飞雪

确实很少，希望开春后房子会多些，价格不变

老孔雀

同感，偶尔出现一个半个大差不差的，也很难降价。

有影无踪

去买新房，新房反而比旧房便宜，不正常

ceramistpalace

去买新房，新房反而比旧房便宜，不正常
有影无踪 发表于 2010-1-18 10:54

It is true for the mid-level houses, but not the luxurious ones.

执迷不悔

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why?

开怀乡巴佬

我喜欢老房子,新房子感到华而不实

孟良焦赞

i like new houses too, you can choose or add things you like.

monicapharm

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7 |; d! p2 Z6 Y8 n0 p( a6 z- IBecause most older houses were upgraded throughout the years, like having the deck down, fence up, basement finished, garage insulated...etc....In comparison, new houses do have a better layout sometimes, but do not offer those add-ons, which means you have to do lot of upgrading work.

牛肉粉丝

我喜欢老房子,新房子感到华而不实
* k/ Y) l0 ?8 ?) [, X  u& G开怀乡巴佬 发表于 2010-1-18 16:09

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大黄胖

看来真的涨了。。。

zm72ru

新房也涨了

圆梦

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Phaeton

两个月前看的LANDMARK的房子，当时要52万，现在再去看，要56万了，NND!

老孔雀

哎，有一部分人是专门炒房的。去年夏天看过一个房子，当时报价33万，现在重新装修更换窗户等后，现在报价是38万，估计所有装修费用应该在2万左右。

ceramistpalace

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$ k! s# ?$ H# A+ Y. J8 t% v执迷不悔 发表于 2010-1-18 15:09

That is a category which prices rose the most during last peak(in 2007, this category rose from around $250K to almost $600K), the builders know the price hike (and greater profit margins) was a result of speculation and are disproportional in comparison with costs increase; when the market cools down, they know they have no other choices but returning to normal profit margins strategy in order to stay in business. As for the homeowners, they either have purchased their houses at a peak price and are reluctant to suffer a lose if selling lower,or having seen a recorded price level, some owners are not willing to sell for any thing less since they are not in a rush to realize their assets. If you check with the builders now on the price of building a luxurious house, you would find out it is not much lowered indeed.

WST

不是很理解， 请ceramistpalace 再解释一下，谢谢。

1。对于高档房，您认为新房价格比二手房高，相当，还是低？
2。你的论点：when the market cools down, they know they have no other choices but returning to normal profit margins strategy in order to stay in business， 说明建筑商只能降价。 If you check with the builders now on the price of building a luxurious house, you would find out it is not much lowered indeed. 说明高档房没有降价。高价新房到底降没降价？

ceramistpalace

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不是很理解， 请ceramistpalace 再解释一下，谢谢。

! D( T" C" F! b6 W1。对于高档房，您认为新房价格比二手房高，相当，还是低？
, R! l0 w2 O; [; d- a" y. F# q" d+ d2。你的论点：when the market cools down, they know they have no other choices but returning ...
WST 发表于 2010-1-19 15:58

* x; Z- f3 }% D1. One has to look at the very details to get a precise comparison however it is a bit difficult to do such since almost every high-level house is unique (especially those custom-built houses, the wealthy owners have enough money to get what they wanted), what might be found with one may not be with the other, there are too many features that inexperienced eyes won't see (actually some cannot be possibly seen unless the owners tell you or you have a chance to look at the blue prints); architectural controls are different from one area to another (one may not be well aware of) hence the costs vary(this is one example only). Having talked to some builders recently (include  some upgraded/features I know and wanna have), I worked out roughly my cost difference between building new/buying old, whichever one costs more, is not that much and in most cases, the new seems cost me more. For the entry-level houses, the price correction is more obvious, as I have already said its price hiked the most during the big boom and builders are resuming regular p. margins strategy to remain competitive.  Years just before the boom, the builders' profit margins was around 40% (I learned this from my friend who was a small builder by then) which is a fortune already; entry-level houses always have a greater demand because they are what most people can afford, so during the speculative booming period, the builders took advantage of it and enjoyed the greatest profit margins ever (some might be 100% or more if their spec homes were started at an earlier time and finished at the boom) but this was never the case for the luxuries, IMO the builders seem more sticked to normal margin %, so for 2., my answer is YES BUT NOT AS MUCH AS the mid/entry-levels.

执迷不悔

貌似明白的说,现在买高档房合适

ceramistpalace

My postings here may be somewhat confusing but there is no implication that this is a better time buying high-level houses than entry/mids, or vice versa. I simply wanna tell, what I have observed, that the entry/mids have a greater correction and prices are back to a reasonable level and in normal-as-before proportion to costs, unlike the luxuries category which the builders hold on to a more steady p. margins whether the market was at peak or by now. Readers or potential buyers should use their own discretion to decide which category they are heading to. Hope I have made my view more clear this time.

执迷不悔

deal or no deal

678

由于受通货膨胀真正的，大的影响目前还没有太显现出来，所以人们认为存钱不如买房好，进而出现目前没有人卖房的局面。

ceramistpalace

deal or no deal
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1. One has to look at the very details to get a precise comparison however it is a bit difficult to do such since almost every high-level house is unique (especially those custom-built houses, the w ...
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WST

对于高端大房，我个人的看法是建筑商的利润比建底端房高很多。问题是底端房销路好，可以薄利多销，而高端房不好卖，只能卖高价，最终建筑商的盈利相当。

小黄

高端房升值慢贬值慢。

ceramistpalace

能翻译成中文吗？
. o( ]  x1 K4 F" q( Puuqq 发表于 2010-1-22 20:58

Sorry, I just don't have the technique/knowledge of chinese in-put.

执迷不悔

高端房升值慢贬值慢。
小黄 发表于 2010-1-22 22:09

有道理

执迷不悔

Not large or small???
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冰糖葫芦

Sorry, I just don't have the technique/knowledge of chinese in-put.
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