想卖房的同胞赶紧出货！

依勒特

美国众议院，七千亿美元救市计划被废掉了。
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& @+ ^& M* c) z* FU.S. House defeats $700 billion financial markets bailout bill
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% Q8 ^  D, U8 h. w& WWASHINGTON - In a stunning vote that shocked the capital and worldwide markets, the House of Representatives on Monday defeated a US$700 billion emergency rescue for the U.S. financial system.
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The House ignored urgent warnings from President George W. Bush and congressional leaders of both parties that the economy could nosedive without the bailout.

5 b+ j9 R8 C' h; P. M: WStocks plummeted on Wall Street even before the 228-205 vote to reject the bill was officially announced on the House floor.

As a digital screen in the House chamber recorded a cascade of "no" votes against the bailout, Democratic Representative Joe Crowley of New York shouted news of the falling Dow Jones industrials. "Six hundred points!" he yelled, jabbing his thumb downward. The decline was about 600 points shortly before the close of the trading day.
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% r, R  j" z- A$ p9 e) fBush and a host of leading congressional figures had implored the legislators to pass the legislation despite howls of protest from their constituents back home. Not enough members were willing to take the political risk just five weeks before an election.

1 j8 V. x% r* Y: j- e* h  j"No" votes came from both the Democratic and Republican sides of the aisle. More than two-thirds of Republicans and 40 per cent of Democrats opposed the bill.

! S+ F* L0 w( O2 xThe overriding question for congressional leaders was what to do next. Congress has been trying to adjourn so that its members can go out and campaign.

"We are ready to continue to work on this," said Democratic Representative Barney Frank, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.
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"The legislation may have failed; the crisis is still with us," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), in a news conference after the defeat.

Republicans blamed her scathing speech near the close of the debate - which attacked Bush's economic policies and a "right-wing ideology of anything goes, no supervision, no discipline, no regulation" of financial markets - for the current turmoil.
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Frank said that was a remarkable accusation by Republicans against Republicans: "because somebody hurt their feelings, they decided to punish the country."

$ c6 x" C, Y% s" D  B! ^A White House spokesman said Bush was "very disappointed" in the vote.
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The president will be meeting with members of his team later in the day "to determine next steps," said spokesman Tony Fratto.
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"I'm disappointed in the vote by the United Sates Congress on the economic recovery plan," Bush told reporters later during a picture-taking session with the president of Ukraine. "Our strategy is to continue to address this economic situation head on. We'll be working to develop a strategy."

5 N8 Z. m  Y4 A1 a' }# y) mMonday's mind-numbing vote had been preceded by unusually aggressive White House lobbying, and Fratto said that Bush had used a "call list" of people he wanted to persuade to vote Yes as late as just a short time before the vote.

The drawn-out and tense call of the roll dragged on for roughly 40 minutes as leaders on both sides scrambled to corral enough of their rank-and-file members to support the deeply unpopular measure. They found only two.

Bush and his economic advisers, as well as congressional leaders in both parties had argued the plan was vital to insulating ordinary Americans from the effects of Wall Street's bad bets.
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The version that was up for vote Monday was the product of marathon closed-door negotiations on Capitol Hill over the weekend.

7 v: \% X# U" A8 D% N, TThe legislation the administration promoted would have allowed the government to buy bad mortgages and other rotten assets held by troubled banks and financial institutions.
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! T3 _( V# s/ `Getting those debts off their books should bolster those companies' balance sheets, making them more inclined to lend and easing one of the biggest choke points in the credit crisis.
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7 q) Z5 K" j7 F% u7 S; NIf the plan worked, the thinking went, it would help lift a major weight off the national economy that is already sputtering.
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Mon Sep 29, 3:46 PM

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  a3 o4 I" \. Y) f(Reuters)NEW YORK (Reuters) - Oil prices dropped nearly 10 percent on Monday after the House of Representatives rejected the $700 billion rescue package for the financial sector.
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& f, s  m' c2 wStocks plunged after lawmakers voted against the bailout and major U.S. and European banks needed emergency deals to stave off collapse, sending investors fleeing to the safety of gold and debt.

U.S. November crude settled down $10.52 to $96.37 a barrel, after touching a session low of $95.04, in the second biggest drop since April 23, 2003. November crude dropped 11.8 percent last Tuesday following a spike in the expiring October crude contract in the previous session.
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London Brent crude traded down $9.56 to settle at $93.98 a barrel.

The House voted 228-205 to reject the bailout bill, which would have authorized the Treasury Department to purchase broken mortgage-backed bonds from banks with the goal of jump-starting stalled capital markets.
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"The bailout package being defeated sent stock markets tumbling, weighing on petroleum as well," said Tom Bentz, analyst at BNP Paribas Commodity Futures Inc.
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  T, [3 ]3 V! B, }( o$ p+ gThe mounting economic crisis has stirred concerns about oil demand, helping drag prices from a record high above $147 a barrel in July.

$ m# J5 J' `3 g3 b( ~/ k* LIn addition, investors who had rushed into commodities earlier this year as a hedge against inflation and the weak dollar have sold crude for safer havens.

9 y" P5 |8 \. j! ?( o"This decision is a shock to the system," said Sarah Emerson, director of Energy Security Analysis Inc. "The oil market is reacting strongly in part because of the implications of a weak economy on demand."
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Traders also were watching the slow recovery of U.S. oil infrastructure following after Hurricane Ike hit the U.S. Gulf of Mexico.
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1 L+ L: x4 s( w3 G  \The U.N. Security Council unanimously passed a resolution on Saturday that again ordered OPEC nation Iran to halt its nuclear enrichment work, but it imposed none of the new sanctions Washington and its allies wanted.
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& a. {( s5 G1 D/ a  C% v(Reporting by Matthew Robinson in New York; Additional reporting by Fayen Wong in Perth; Jane Merriman and Alex Lawler in London; Editing by Marguerita Choy)

西安转笔刀

it is a good news, the poor has their speak heard, it is not like only the power got their speak heard

newlife

大连人

GOOD NEWS ? WE WILL SEE!

依勒特

Kevin Drawbaugh and Eddie Evans
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0 S) [. G" T& v" vMonday, September 29, 2008
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Markets fell sharply as the deal, brokered over the weekend by Republican and Democratic leaders, collapsed on the floor of the House of Representatives.

0 R, U! a3 m$ m3 I! c+ HWASHINGTON/NEW YORK - U.S. lawmakers rejected a $700 billion bailout plan for the financial industry in a shock vote that sent global markets sliding as European authorities scrambled to prop up a slew of banks.

Even before the vote, Asian and European markets had plummeted on fears the crisis was spreading, while U.S. regional lender Wachovia became the latest big bank to succumb to the crisis.

And global money markets were frozen even as central banks poured hundreds of billions of dollars into the financial system to persuade financial firms to stop hoarding cash.
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3 x5 ~# r2 i, s' l. V( ~; K+ S"There's a monster amount of fear out there. This is global contagion. It's no longer just the United States," said Joe Saluzzi, co-manager of trading at Themis Trading in Chatham, New Jersey.

The House of Representatives voted 228-to-205 against a compromise bailout plan that would have allowed the Treasury Department to buy up toxic assets from struggling banks. House Republicans, in particular, balked at spending so much taxpayer money just before the Nov. 4 U.S. elections.
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. r# g  r- b0 y' |( l. W: e"I can't believe they weren't able to come together and come up with a solution. Complete disaster was predicted if it didn't pass," said Stephen Berte, senior equity trader at Standard Life in Boston. "I can't see what the upside is right now."

$ Y0 J: }4 {! S/ a# Q+ BThe plan's defeat sent U.S. stocks plunging, with the blue chip Dow Jones industrial average .DJI briefly posting its biggest drop ever - down 700 points. Latin American stocks tumbled 13 percent, their biggest decline in more than a decade.
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. u# {9 l" Q4 L- f" iInvestors rushed to assets considered a safe haven. Government bond prices and gold jumped, and oil fell below $99 per barrel on the view that world demand will contract as the financial crisis puts the brakes on economic activity.

In Washington, the failure of the bailout bill - after more than a week of intensive closed-door negotiation intended to hammer out a compromise plan - brought new uncertainty about the response of the U.S. government to the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.

7 \% S2 t: y; Z0 E. k) `9 vU.S. President George W. Bush was set to huddle with economic advisers to consider the administration's next move after the White House failed to win support for the bailout plan from Bush's fellow Republicans.

"There's no question the economy is facing a difficult crisis that needs to be addressed," White House spokesman Tony Fratto told reporters.
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. W, u: A1 |3 T  {The bailout plan was announced by the Bush administration last week. In the end, Republican House members voted against it by a more than 2-to-1 margin. A majority of Democrats voted in favor.

Rep. Barney Frank, a Massachusetts Democrat who helped craft the bill in hours of negotiations with leading lawmakers, said the next step could hinge on the economic fallout from the bill's failure.
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Capping three hours of debate, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland had warned lawmakers that the cost of inaction would be an economic calamity beyond Wall Street.

* A% Y2 S$ @1 Q. [: J0 ?; |"A meltdown would begin, it is true, on a few square miles of Manhattan, but before it was over, all of us know, no city or town in America would be untouched," Hoyer said.

$ f. H1 {/ ]5 A, K( VThe high-stakes political showdown on the bailout proposal came after Wachovia Corp agreed to sell most of its assets to Citigroup Inc in a deal brokered by regulators.
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0 h! R0 B  }6 d# x: NEarlier, the governments of Belgium, the Netherlands and Luxembourg moved to partly nationalize Belgian-Dutch group Fortis NV, and German lender Hypo Real Estate Holding secured a credit line from the German government.

British mortgage lender Bradford & Bingley Plc was brought under the government's wing, shares of French bank Dexia tumbled on a report that it might need emergency capital, and bank rescue deals also emerged in Iceland, Russia and Denmark.

' i/ g% }" x" O. @0 L5 h" t"The contagion is spreading to mainland Europe and everyone's asking, 'Who's next?'" said Mark Sartori, head of European sales trading at Fox-Pitt, Kelton in London.

Earlier, European shares had dropped to a three-and-a-half year closing low, with bank shares weighing heavily.  
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3 V8 V! }8 U9 E: V"Investors are fearful, frenetic, especially when it comes to banking shares. They want to get out now and see the after effects from afar," said Frank Geilfuss, head analyst at Bankhaus Loebbecke.
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4 i/ a4 R  C" l4 jThe world's central banks, led by the U.S. Federal Reserve, announced a $330 billion expansion of currency swap arrangements, which allows them to increase the amount of money they can provide in their home markets, effectively throwing more money at the crisis.
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. S" S3 C* u2 U5 f1 L3 t& X" |The Wachovia deal is the latest in a series of events that has transformed the American financial landscape and wiped out hundreds of billions of dollars of shareholder wealth.

% P' I# R9 P- H/ t) Q# O0 o8 EThe changes include the government takeover of mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae FNM.P and Freddie Mac FRE.P, the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc, the failure of giant savings and loan Washington Mutual, and Bank of America Corp's purchase of Merrill Lynch & Co Inc.
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依勒特

经济不好，虽然房价会下降。但工薪阶层总是最大的受害者！

依勒特

纽约９月２９日电（记者 杨蕾）由于布什政府的金融救援方案被美国国会否决导致投资者对未来经济形势和原油需求的走势更加悲观，２９日国际油价单日暴跌超过１０美元。
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    当天，纽约商品交易所１１月份交货的轻质原油期货价格盘中最低跌至每桶９５．０４美元，到收盘时报于每桶９６．３７美元，比上一个交易日大幅下挫了１０．５２美元。伦敦国际石油交易所１１月份交货的北海布伦特轻质原油期货价格暴跌９．５６美元，收于每桶９３．９８美元。

" X4 k4 o/ a( L8 l& Y/ A    美国国会众议院２９日否决了布什政府提出的总额为７０００亿美元的金融救援方案，打击了投资者对于金融市场尽快恢复稳定的信心。分析人士表示，无论美国国会是否通过该方案，国际油价都将走低，因为美国及全球范围内的经济衰退还远未结束，可以预计普通消费者和企业都将减少能源消费。

6 W3 G0 k) F, Z9 e1 x: Y    导致油价当天回落的另一个重要因素是美元对欧元汇率的上涨。由于更多的银行和金融机构陷入困境，使本已放缓的欧元区经济形势更加雪上加霜，自上周以来欧元对美元持续走软。
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    ２９日，纽商所汽油期货价格每加仑下跌２６．８１美分，收于２．３９７０美元。取暖油期货价格每加仑下跌２３．４５美分，收于２．７６０４美元。天然气期货价格每千立方英尺下跌４０．７美分，收于７．２２１美元。

YZSUNNY

紫光

出了货以后有损失你赔不赔。
你要是不太懂经济问题就不要乱下结论。这两天就这个消息很多人都大赚了一把。
你等着看，还有后招。

zhucalvin

感谢楼主分享！
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* g/ h: A* B9 h' |$ B# ?. [/ {个人感觉，现在就是想卖房也晚了。美国的这次危机决不是那么简单，美国大选完后，才会爆出惊人的内幕，所有的危机才会真正开始爆发 ...

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6 a3 S. j/ n3 U# z! i3 a' V* G[ 本帖最后由 zhucalvin 于 2008-9-29 19:58 编辑 ]

每天一点

记得有人去年说2008年“别指望50万以下能买个像样的SINGLEHOUSE”，这位懂经济的人也可能给有些人造成了损失，不知道赔不赔？
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原帖由 紫光 于 2008-9-29 19:13 发表
出了货以后有损失你赔不赔。
, i" }! |. g& c" V- Q3 n, v9 z$ c你要是不太懂经济问题就不要乱下结论。这两天就这个消息很多人都大赚了一把。
; P/ S2 I! m2 v/ L: W你等着看，还有后招。

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自由的像风

建议标题改为“炒房族”赶紧出货。

自由的像风

更大的利空－－美国国会上星期通过法案，禁止进口亚省“脏油”。
亚省应对方案是寻求别的愿意接受油沙油的国家，但是，近几年好像无法实现。
不知道有没有人了解详细情况。

紫光

原帖由 sunwinc 于 2008-9-29 20:25 发表
记得有人去年说2008年“别指望50万以下能买个像样的SINGLEHOUSE”，这位懂经济的人也可能给有些人造成了损失，不知道赔不赔？

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' {- V  p. N9 K5 `+ A* U我前两天才去转了转，手上有一把builder的价格，像样一点的地加房子还是50几万。
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旧房子有便宜的，那是别人买得便宜，怎么卖你都是冤大头。
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存货多的时候不买，非要等到存货降了买。你不妨再等等看。
: ~5 J' z( [6 ?* o就这个消息，你等着看，如果不进行第二次投票，就会有其他动作，你以为就怎么完了。
# s4 a! A& v( d最关键这个消息和爱城房市一点都不沾边。什么叫乱联想，这就是。

依勒特

原帖由 紫光 于 2008-9-29 19:13 发表
; v: t& W8 m* ^$ Q+ s出了货以后有损失你赔不赔。
+ Y1 ]9 _. Y' X# ^你要是不太懂经济问题就不要乱下结论。这两天就这个消息很多人都大赚了一把。
你等着看，还有后招。

见笑了。俺真的不懂经济，炒房出货有损失也赔不起。对不起，炒房的朋友受惊了。

紫光

原帖由 依勒特 于 2008-9-29 21:07 发表
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( S" d) N; C0 m; s( o( t8 [见笑了。俺真的不懂经济，炒房出货有损失也赔不起。对不起，炒房的朋友受惊了。

0 h1 f# C. {4 C" o客气客气，我不炒房，炒外汇。因为这个消息今天发了笔小财，所以对于凡是谈到这个话题的帖子都看看。
你们继续看跌，我不参与……

YZSUNNY

原帖由 newlife 于 2008-9-29 14:48 发表
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/ U- n( @9 w& C# Z' b愁云密布呃！！！
……………………

兔宝宝

哈哈，行到水穷处，坐看云起时。

音响神仙鱼

能出租更好。
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潇洒哥

收到，谢谢

醉酒当歌

因为什么是像样的房子由他定义，所以正说反说都是他的理。其实，也许他当时像样的房子指的是当时40万的房子，可是现在他可以解释成50万的房子。

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原帖由 sunwinc 于 2008-9-29 20:25 发表
# L" ?; w% }: n记得有人去年说2008年“别指望50万以下能买个像样的SINGLEHOUSE”，这位懂经济的人也可能给有些人造成了损失，不知道赔不赔？

http://www.edmontonchina.ca/view ... &extra=page%3D6

每天一点

真见识了专家的高论。
去年同类50万以上的旧房子现在大概降了10w，新房官方统计是降5%以上。
说实在的，闭着眼睛说话的人还真少见
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heysheep

原帖由 自由的像风 于 2008-9-29 20:31 发表
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不知道有没有人了解详细情况。

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我想你说的是上周美国众议院通过的526修正案，这个修正案限制美国军队和邮政部门使用高CO2排放的燃料，其中包括来自加拿大的沥青转化油，是否能作为法案通过还需要大选后的参议院的批准，一般人认为得到民主党占多数的参议院通过的机会很小。“亚省应对方案是寻求别的愿意接受油沙油的国家”，这个也不可能，因为HARPER上个星期刚发表的讲话，如果他当选会立法禁止沥青出口到不遵守和签订CO2排放标准的国家，主要针对的就是中国和印度。美国的石油公司倒是一直希望直买沥青灌输到美国的炼油厂加工，因为加工成本低，但亚省和加拿大政府一直要求沥青要在亚省UPGRADING，这样可以把投资和工作机会留在加拿大。
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heysheep

顺便说一下，这个7000亿的救市计划会在这周四从新提交审议，WALL STREET的分析认为，在经过两党首脑的劝说后，从新通过的问题不大，毕竟这个提案本身也需要从新完善和综合各方的意见。

紫光

原帖由 sunwinc 于 2008-9-30 07:36 发表
$ L4 R% D' e4 n' Y9 A. [( X真见识了专家的高论。
去年同类50万以上的旧房子现在大概降了10w，新房官方统计是降5%以上。
说实在的，闭着眼睛说话的人还真少见

1 X* r- D9 z6 y6 g你要真明白了这个，你也可以在投资市场上去碰碰运气了。
不过，现在还要先练练内功。

smallhill

美股狂跌777，加股好象也700多点没了（整个9月估计少了2000点），你说这赚钱的多还是赔钱的多？

原帖由 紫光 于 2008-9-29 19:13 发表
出了货以后有损失你赔不赔。
你要是不太懂经济问题就不要乱下结论。这两天就这个消息很多人都大赚了一把。
你等着看，还有后招。

自由的像风

原帖由 heysheep 于 2008-9-30 09:26 发表
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0 C$ h% l8 [  R) |) ]- H+ Y我想你说的是上周美国众议院通过的526修正案，这个修正案限制美国军队和邮政部门使用高CO2排放的燃料，其中包括来自加拿大的沥青转化油，是否能作为法案通过还需要大选后的参议院的批准，一般人认为得到民主党占 ...

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紫光

原帖由 smallhill 于 2008-9-30 10:15 发表
美股狂跌777，加股好象也700多点没了（整个9月估计少了2000点），你说这赚钱的多还是赔钱的多？
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5 \* ^2 S2 x7 E- Q做投资永远都是赚钱的人少赔钱的人都，一点也不稀奇。
美股跌还是昨天的故事。

smallhill

所以炒房也是。
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原帖由 紫光 于 2008-9-30 10:35 发表

+ A" H& F: q' O- K6 s做投资永远都是赚钱的人少赔钱的人都，一点也不稀奇。
美股跌还是昨天的故事。